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		<title>By: Bekki</title>
		<link>http://uzbekistan.neweurasia.net/2007/07/26/what-do-uzbek-women-think-about-sex/#comment-37897</link>
		<dc:creator>Bekki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 05:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Uzbekistan you can find  different men and women. Most commentators came from their own conditions and tried to generalize their own life. Kamron also wrote a about himself. Great Respect to Uzbek woman and mothers. If you lost your interest to girl that means your eyesight  has problem. life is not enough to discover the beautes of the woman. 
I do not agree with those such as shirin who saw the West for a little time and thinks about herself educated. The freedom is not freedom there It is slavery to your bodily desires..
However Kamron who are you I don't know but don't do it again. You did spread exaggerated  information and the other bad is that even you spread information you cannot supply its proper understanding.  
Think about implications, as you are man. Uzbek girls think about implications but u could not do it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Uzbekistan you can find  different men and women. Most commentators came from their own conditions and tried to generalize their own life. Kamron also wrote a about himself. Great Respect to Uzbek woman and mothers. If you lost your interest to girl that means your eyesight  has problem. life is not enough to discover the beautes of the woman.<br />
I do not agree with those such as shirin who saw the West for a little time and thinks about herself educated. The freedom is not freedom there It is slavery to your bodily desires..<br />
However Kamron who are you I don&#8217;t know but don&#8217;t do it again. You did spread exaggerated  information and the other bad is that even you spread information you cannot supply its proper understanding.<br />
Think about implications, as you are man. Uzbek girls think about implications but u could not do it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Egyptian man</title>
		<link>http://uzbekistan.neweurasia.net/2007/07/26/what-do-uzbek-women-think-about-sex/#comment-37888</link>
		<dc:creator>Egyptian man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 11:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear,

I feel that you are talking about the a culture like us in egypt because we are muslims like you, I agree with the one who said that Hollywood had affect all the world not only us,Also i agree that we as men afraid from ladies that lies on their parents and may make sex with their boy friends, What i feel and i want to announce to all the girls in the world is that SEX befor marriage will not make you happy with your boyfriend after marriage but you will loose alot of respect because Allah (God) will leave you alone without support.from my bad experience ,i married my fiance that i kissed her befor and when i did so, i never think that we will fight with each other after marry. NOW,I am looking for a kiss at least from my wife,not sex,and i m always in problems with her,i think all that is a normal result to what happened befor marriage,

The Islamic culture is a good culture that makes a happy family really,and if u read about the old muslims you will feel the goodness of this culture.the rule (NO sex befor marry) is a normal rule and what they are doing in the western is not normal,now they are suffering from diseases and feeling lonely.because they dont think about making families....
SO PLZ UZBEK woman stay think in your culture you will be more respectable and loveable from your Creator and then from everyone..

Best wishes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear,</p>
<p>I feel that you are talking about the a culture like us in egypt because we are muslims like you, I agree with the one who said that Hollywood had affect all the world not only us,Also i agree that we as men afraid from ladies that lies on their parents and may make sex with their boy friends, What i feel and i want to announce to all the girls in the world is that SEX befor marriage will not make you happy with your boyfriend after marriage but you will loose alot of respect because Allah (God) will leave you alone without support.from my bad experience ,i married my fiance that i kissed her befor and when i did so, i never think that we will fight with each other after marry. NOW,I am looking for a kiss at least from my wife,not sex,and i m always in problems with her,i think all that is a normal result to what happened befor marriage,</p>
<p>The Islamic culture is a good culture that makes a happy family really,and if u read about the old muslims you will feel the goodness of this culture.the rule (NO sex befor marry) is a normal rule and what they are doing in the western is not normal,now they are suffering from diseases and feeling lonely.because they dont think about making families&#8230;.<br />
SO PLZ UZBEK woman stay think in your culture you will be more respectable and loveable from your Creator and then from everyone..</p>
<p>Best wishes</p>
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		<title>By: AVAZ</title>
		<link>http://uzbekistan.neweurasia.net/2007/07/26/what-do-uzbek-women-think-about-sex/#comment-37882</link>
		<dc:creator>AVAZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 23:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HI !NO NEED TO TOUCH THIS HOLY TOPIC.I THINK PROBLEMS BEHIND THIS IS COMING THROUGH LACKAGE OF ISLAMIC KNOWLEDGE  AND INFLUENCE OF WEST..THIS RULE OF VIRGINITY HAS BEEN KEPT IN USE FOR MORE THAN 1000 YEARS AND WHY SHOULD BESTROYED NOW BECAUSE OF SOME WESTERN THINKING PEOPLE ,UZBEKS HAVE OWN TRADITION ,, RULES OF LIVE ,SO LEAVE IT ALONE....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI !NO NEED TO TOUCH THIS HOLY TOPIC.I THINK PROBLEMS BEHIND THIS IS COMING THROUGH LACKAGE OF ISLAMIC KNOWLEDGE  AND INFLUENCE OF WEST..THIS RULE OF VIRGINITY HAS BEEN KEPT IN USE FOR MORE THAN 1000 YEARS AND WHY SHOULD BESTROYED NOW BECAUSE OF SOME WESTERN THINKING PEOPLE ,UZBEKS HAVE OWN TRADITION ,, RULES OF LIVE ,SO LEAVE IT ALONE&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: moto</title>
		<link>http://uzbekistan.neweurasia.net/2007/07/26/what-do-uzbek-women-think-about-sex/#comment-37775</link>
		<dc:creator>moto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 22:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi! The post is completely good. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi! The post is completely good. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: clothes store</title>
		<link>http://uzbekistan.neweurasia.net/2007/07/26/what-do-uzbek-women-think-about-sex/#comment-37625</link>
		<dc:creator>clothes store</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 08:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They look real and beautiful. ;-)</description>
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		<title>By: FAWiKi</title>
		<link>http://uzbekistan.neweurasia.net/2007/07/26/what-do-uzbek-women-think-about-sex/#comment-37526</link>
		<dc:creator>FAWiKi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 19:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi! The post is really interesting! I've read your blog and can say it's a good job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi! The post is really interesting! I&#8217;ve read your blog and can say it&#8217;s a good job.</p>
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		<title>By: Hank_747</title>
		<link>http://uzbekistan.neweurasia.net/2007/07/26/what-do-uzbek-women-think-about-sex/#comment-37376</link>
		<dc:creator>Hank_747</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://uzbekistan.neweurasia.net/2007/07/26/what-do-uzbek-women-think-about-sex/#comment-37376</guid>
		<description>Well... I was born in Uzbekistan (Samarkand), lived in a small village in the mountains and then in Tashkent.
Women in the provinces of Uzbekistan are more traditional than in the City.
Back in the 60s and 70s even in Tashkent young women were very modest and belonged only to their husbands.
Nowdays is a different story: a lot of influence from Russian media and press. There are plenty of pre-marital sex relationship.
Wealthy men have more than 1 wife.
Divorces are more common and women's morale depends on her family upbringing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230; I was born in Uzbekistan (Samarkand), lived in a small village in the mountains and then in Tashkent.<br />
Women in the provinces of Uzbekistan are more traditional than in the City.<br />
Back in the 60s and 70s even in Tashkent young women were very modest and belonged only to their husbands.<br />
Nowdays is a different story: a lot of influence from Russian media and press. There are plenty of pre-marital sex relationship.<br />
Wealthy men have more than 1 wife.<br />
Divorces are more common and women&#8217;s morale depends on her family upbringing.</p>
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		<title>By: Kamron</title>
		<link>http://uzbekistan.neweurasia.net/2007/07/26/what-do-uzbek-women-think-about-sex/#comment-37171</link>
		<dc:creator>Kamron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 12:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks guys for your brilliant comments, except Nakamatsu who is quite rude in his remarks.
Anyways, I promise to come back with a post called what uzbek men think about sex</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks guys for your brilliant comments, except Nakamatsu who is quite rude in his remarks.<br />
Anyways, I promise to come back with a post called what uzbek men think about sex</p>
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		<title>By: a girl</title>
		<link>http://uzbekistan.neweurasia.net/2007/07/26/what-do-uzbek-women-think-about-sex/#comment-37169</link>
		<dc:creator>a girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 09:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://uzbekistan.neweurasia.net/2007/07/26/what-do-uzbek-women-think-about-sex/#comment-37169</guid>
		<description>Dear Kamron and the readers, 

a very interesting read, especially the comments. interestingly, it was mainly males who commented on the article, except for Shirin, and thank you for a brilliant comment. Being a Central Asian girl too I think I should make my own contribution to this forum, the way males think about what girls think about sex. 
Kamron, is getting it quite close, there is no sex education in Uzbekistan, information about sex reaches the minds of girls quite late, and from quite dirty souces, it is not their mothers or teachers telling them all about sex. it is not even books, but rather talks in the streets with a little older girls. usually first knowledge about sex is shocking. Girls grow up in a manner where they are strictly instructed about hiding their bodies, being careful with opposite sex. Sex is a crime for an unmarried young lady. They dont think about getting pregnant, they think about parents, about honesty, about relatives, neighbours, what would they all say? brothers and fathers might kill them for this. and moreover every respecting girl wants others to think of her as of totally non-sexual creature, which means clean. The way Nakamatsu draws the picture of dirty europe and clean uzbekistan shows his traumatic look at sex. SEX is DIRTY for him! Dear Nakamatsu, I dont know if you lived in Uzbekistan or if  you have been one of the little minority of men who didnt have sex before marriage because it was prohibited by religion, usually men are well experienced in these matters. What means well experienced? their experience is also gathered usually somewhere in dirty little rooms of either a little too stupid girls who cant appreciate themselves or a quite experienced elder women, who make their business. Nakamtsu, adultry is not a western innovation, it is UNIVERSAL! we in Uzbekistan had adultry way before we ever got so close to the western culture. it is a little troubling the way you idealise uzbek society, guess you havent been there for ages. If you want to know more about Uzbekistan, read some literature from Middle Ages, you will see then we had homosexuality (bacha-bozi), then we had adultry! We in Uzbekistan are not particularly clean or the West is not particularly dirty! and believe me, men didnt start committing adultry since hollywood films appeared! read Hamza at least, late 19th century and beginning of 20th centuries, 'mysteries of paranja', for instance.
I agree with Shirin, that the virginity concept is a very comfortable ground for men. and the scenario she depicted is quite a common one, but i would strongly disagree with putting the number of such cases to 90%. 
i read a very interesting anthropological research work on the role of sacrifices in persian/tajik-speaking population of Central Asia, which goes as far to Zoroastrian times. There the wedding is described as an act of sacrifice, where the father is the one who sacrifices, the groom is a God to him the sacrifice is made, and the bride is a prey/sacrifice itself; virginity wasnt very important for the people of those times; but because the bride was seen as a sacrifice she was supposed to be virgin. previously zoroastrians would kill a sheep which not yet born babies, to sacrifice, i.e. virgin. but this puts a woman in a role of a passive gift to a man! and this goes on till now. after the marriage, the parents of the groom would telephone the parents of the bride and thank them for the virgin bride, for the good upbringing (if there was blood on the sheets of course). she is merely a gift to someone. this is how passive women are viewed to be.  
Anyway, virginity and sex before marriage, is not the religious decision, it is the decision of the two. 
Jamiyat was right asking the question of what boys think about sex. there are many stories of girls being seduced to lay with a man, to prove her love to him, and then he would leave her, because he thinks, she could do it to everyone else, she being unpure, and broken (it is interesting but this sort of wording is used with the girls who were supposedly not virgins anymore, they are being spoilt or broken). is it not mean?! what an interesting view have the boys got on the matter? Kamron, maybe this is another idea for another post?

best
a girl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Kamron and the readers, </p>
<p>a very interesting read, especially the comments. interestingly, it was mainly males who commented on the article, except for Shirin, and thank you for a brilliant comment. Being a Central Asian girl too I think I should make my own contribution to this forum, the way males think about what girls think about sex.<br />
Kamron, is getting it quite close, there is no sex education in Uzbekistan, information about sex reaches the minds of girls quite late, and from quite dirty souces, it is not their mothers or teachers telling them all about sex. it is not even books, but rather talks in the streets with a little older girls. usually first knowledge about sex is shocking. Girls grow up in a manner where they are strictly instructed about hiding their bodies, being careful with opposite sex. Sex is a crime for an unmarried young lady. They dont think about getting pregnant, they think about parents, about honesty, about relatives, neighbours, what would they all say? brothers and fathers might kill them for this. and moreover every respecting girl wants others to think of her as of totally non-sexual creature, which means clean. The way Nakamatsu draws the picture of dirty europe and clean uzbekistan shows his traumatic look at sex. SEX is DIRTY for him! Dear Nakamatsu, I dont know if you lived in Uzbekistan or if  you have been one of the little minority of men who didnt have sex before marriage because it was prohibited by religion, usually men are well experienced in these matters. What means well experienced? their experience is also gathered usually somewhere in dirty little rooms of either a little too stupid girls who cant appreciate themselves or a quite experienced elder women, who make their business. Nakamtsu, adultry is not a western innovation, it is UNIVERSAL! we in Uzbekistan had adultry way before we ever got so close to the western culture. it is a little troubling the way you idealise uzbek society, guess you havent been there for ages. If you want to know more about Uzbekistan, read some literature from Middle Ages, you will see then we had homosexuality (bacha-bozi), then we had adultry! We in Uzbekistan are not particularly clean or the West is not particularly dirty! and believe me, men didnt start committing adultry since hollywood films appeared! read Hamza at least, late 19th century and beginning of 20th centuries, &#8216;mysteries of paranja&#8217;, for instance.<br />
I agree with Shirin, that the virginity concept is a very comfortable ground for men. and the scenario she depicted is quite a common one, but i would strongly disagree with putting the number of such cases to 90%.<br />
i read a very interesting anthropological research work on the role of sacrifices in persian/tajik-speaking population of Central Asia, which goes as far to Zoroastrian times. There the wedding is described as an act of sacrifice, where the father is the one who sacrifices, the groom is a God to him the sacrifice is made, and the bride is a prey/sacrifice itself; virginity wasnt very important for the people of those times; but because the bride was seen as a sacrifice she was supposed to be virgin. previously zoroastrians would kill a sheep which not yet born babies, to sacrifice, i.e. virgin. but this puts a woman in a role of a passive gift to a man! and this goes on till now. after the marriage, the parents of the groom would telephone the parents of the bride and thank them for the virgin bride, for the good upbringing (if there was blood on the sheets of course). she is merely a gift to someone. this is how passive women are viewed to be.<br />
Anyway, virginity and sex before marriage, is not the religious decision, it is the decision of the two.<br />
Jamiyat was right asking the question of what boys think about sex. there are many stories of girls being seduced to lay with a man, to prove her love to him, and then he would leave her, because he thinks, she could do it to everyone else, she being unpure, and broken (it is interesting but this sort of wording is used with the girls who were supposedly not virgins anymore, they are being spoilt or broken). is it not mean?! what an interesting view have the boys got on the matter? Kamron, maybe this is another idea for another post?</p>
<p>best<br />
a girl</p>
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		<title>By: Shirin</title>
		<link>http://uzbekistan.neweurasia.net/2007/07/26/what-do-uzbek-women-think-about-sex/#comment-37165</link>
		<dc:creator>Shirin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 19:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, i'm an uzbek girl. i've read the article and all the comments. though i don't like the article, i realize that it's true. i guess i'm one of left 10%. our women make me angry so much. but i'm sure they would try to change smth about that, but the problem is, that the tradition of virginity is so comfortable for men. they like it. they like to fuck every prostitue and than to marry a stupid, non-experienced little girl(much younger), so that she thinks he's a God in sex. and than he's not satisfied because she's too shy n too stupid, bla bla bla n goes back to prostitues. than one day one of that prostitues gets pregnant of him and she becomes his "second wife". because it's  prohibited by law, he just arranges islamic ceremony and makes her his wife. the 1st one finds it out only when he already has 2 or 3 children from the 2nd. 
so, that's the way it is with 90%. i don't blame anyone, i just constanted the facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, i&#8217;m an uzbek girl. i&#8217;ve read the article and all the comments. though i don&#8217;t like the article, i realize that it&#8217;s true. i guess i&#8217;m one of left 10%. our women make me angry so much. but i&#8217;m sure they would try to change smth about that, but the problem is, that the tradition of virginity is so comfortable for men. they like it. they like to fuck every prostitue and than to marry a stupid, non-experienced little girl(much younger), so that she thinks he&#8217;s a God in sex. and than he&#8217;s not satisfied because she&#8217;s too shy n too stupid, bla bla bla n goes back to prostitues. than one day one of that prostitues gets pregnant of him and she becomes his &#8220;second wife&#8221;. because it&#8217;s  prohibited by law, he just arranges islamic ceremony and makes her his wife. the 1st one finds it out only when he already has 2 or 3 children from the 2nd.<br />
so, that&#8217;s the way it is with 90%. i don&#8217;t blame anyone, i just constanted the facts.</p>
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